System for Success - part 1

Hello all. Patricia, you said everything I would want to say in your first post. Thank you. Kerri (HBH) and myself as an ezine publisher and advertising marketer have just formed an alliance (I'm now Agent 001) in much the same vein as you are proposing. I understand the difficulties that face such a project as it gets bigger, but believe it could be done. I will certainly volunteer to do anything I can to see such a project come to fruition.

As with most JVs offered at the moment, I simply don't have much to barter with. As my ezine gains subscribers and credibility that will certainly change. So, if anyone can see how I might be of use to such a project let me know. I'm in!

I just came across a site along the lines we have been discussing. There is an opportunity to get in on some very big projects, almost as an affiliate, but not quite. Have a look and see what you think. http://affiliatejointventurelist.im4newbies.com

Hmm... I think I joined that one earlier this week. Not sure how to go about it yet. One problem is simply to do with time. The other is that I don't want to use my list too often to promote stuff but supply a lot of valuable content and keep my subscribers actually reading my mails.

But the idea of co-operating like it's done here is a real good one! The downside is that there is a performance requirement...

I agree with you about the list care. I decided to do all my promo and advertising through my 2 ezines where I have advertising and program reviews as well as plenty of good content. My list is too fresh to be marketing to directly. I have to weed it regularly so I am only marketing to a responsive group. It takes time to develop a relationship so I need to take that time. I did decide to give this program a go. We'll see how it pans out.

Hi guys - gals!

It's been 2 months and I thought I should let you in on an experiment I started about a month ago which is somewhat related to the ideas I posted here before.

I got myself a new 'bible' early July, called: "The One Minute Millionaire" - you probably heard of it. And there is just so much in there which to me were like puzzle pieces falling in place.

Anyway, one of the concepts is working with "Dream Teams" to enable leverage.

So I contacted 2 friends with whom I had been working before and together we started a new website which is intended to also make some money, but at the same time exploring this whole concept of sharing workloads, doing what you are best at and of course sharing profits.

We'll want to be implementing some of the models discussed here.

We don't see ourselves as one business - 3 individuals teaming up and doing business together. Vast subject - time running out - will tell more about it later!

Patricia

Oh... we thought of the term "light-working marketing" - there's a story to that too...

Hey Patricia,

What you're describing sounds like a basis of a bartering site....

George K.

Originally Posted by judithl

Hello all. Patricia, you said everything I would want to say in your first post. Thank you. Kerri (HBH) and myself as an ezine publisher and advertising marketer have just formed an alliance (I'm now Agent 001) in much the same vein as you are proposing. I understand the difficulties that face such a project as it gets bigger, but believe it could be done. I will certainly volunteer to do anything I can to see such a project come to fruition.

As with most JVs offered at the moment, I simply don't have much to barter with. As my ezine gains subscribers and credibility that will certainly change. So, if anyone can see how I might be of use to such a project let me know. I'm in!

Well Judith I reckon you're it, or rather I hope you're it!
I really don't know what I see as the answer other than many thousands of people sick of losing money on the internet.

It is time for the tide to change!

What if those thousands of people were listed on a skills data base whereby they offered their services for a quoted amount of credit! I remember years ago my wife and I were members of a baby sitting club. The system would operate in much the same way. The idea is to gain credits by performing tasks.

What if all members were expected to contribute what they could afford to a pool. Overseeing everything would be a committee of management whose job it was would be to ensure that projects envisaged made sense. Members would be entitled to request funding for worthwhile projects. They would need to put their proposal forward to the committee and convince them that the idea was viable. The committee then could make a ruling!

Members could have the say as to whether how much (if any!) of their savings could be contributed to the project.

Everybody would be capable of gaining more credits by offering their skill.
The only skill I have to offer would be in the form of general advice for mainly off-line activities. I could offer advice on a hourly rate probably on MSN Messenger. I have about a dozen off-line projects pending and waiting for Project Managers and Finance. There is so much money to be made on these projects that I have decided to contribute all of the earnings (100%) to needy and worthwhile charities around the world. I will live quite sufficiently off the tax deductions.

The current project is for a more efficient car engine - see the following for some details -
http://www.aussiecarforum.com/viewto...asc&&sta rt=0

My problem is that I have about $500 in the Bank. I desperately need a Project Manager and Finance.

I do not have the skills to necessarily get the idea across on paper!

With kind regards,

taurus26

Originally Posted by Patricia Rits

This problem was perfectly illustrated by the post, which offered a JV on swapping newsletter advertisments with a list of 23.000 members. Little list owners like me think: wow - yeah - that would be great to get that kind of exposure!

Then requirement follows: you can only apply if you have a list of at least 5000 members... ouch!
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Observation 1:
Marketing gurus seem aware of this problem and all of the sudden you see mentorship programs being offered all over by the big boys. I've looked into a couple and found that they hire a team of course to leverage this new service and chances are you won't actually get to work with your favorite guru one-on-one.

But even worse for the small wannabee: their entrance fees start anywhere from $2500 and up and again there's the issue of having to have reached a certain level of wealth before you can actually invest in getting mentorship.

Hmm ... perhaps it would serve you to take this from a different approach:

What could you come up with that would be valuable enough for a large list owner to give you exposure even without 5000 leads?

and ...

How could you create a mentor relationship without the $2500? In other words, what creative ways could you convince more successful people to invest some time into you?

The size of your question determines the size of your answer. Think about this from a different perspective than you have before - don't let the list size or the fee size intimidate you - and you might come up with something that gets the job done.

Can you do it? Of *course* you can do it.

So what can you brainstorm?

Dave Navarro

Patricia,

While reading this thread, several thoughts came to mind.

There are similarities in what you're discussing to other concepts, many of which are age old, and come from the background in spiritual teachings.

One of the first is the law of reciprocation (specifically with the universe). I recently read an article which talked about how one should take another look at the old adage: "you can't get something for nothing." The article goes on to look at the implication: "you can't give something and receive nothing in return." The general impression that I got from your ideas is the challenge of how to take this sort of concept and make it viable in the *real* world.

I've recently found the truth in this line of thinking and found it timely to run across the movie "Pay it Forward".

Like you, I'm just getting a few thoughts down 'on paper', but the interesting part of it all is that the concepts that you're presenting are discussed as an integral part of so many books on getting wealthy (Science of Getting Rich, Think and Grow Rich, etc.), but the figuring out how what you send out (what you give) comes back to you, this part is handled by the universe - totally spiritual. What is fascinating is how the universe actually DOES handle this immensely complex issue! I've seen it play out a hundred times, and the advice of the authors is for the reader specifically NOT to try to work out HOW things will come to you, but to have faith that they will. What I find so amazing is when I pay attention to the "coincidences" and timing of people and events in my life, I see that this truly does work.


You may or may not subscribe to the above, but I've had the tremendous fortune to actually witness things in action. It's a matter of paying attention to the things that go on and the significance of those events, particularly the seemingly small ones!

You seem to be one of good heart and aligned with good principles. Perhaps after some thinking more on the matter, how I can be of service in your crusade will come to mind....

Brian

Hi everyone
This sounds like a brilliant idea.
Like many of you I have gone through various books and courses and have learned a lot (maybe too much ).
But, I find it incredibly difficult to wear all the hats.
I would enjoy using some of my skills (jack of all trades, master of none) to help you guys in any way I can.
I have done Interface Design, Project Management, Systems Analysis bla, bla...
But the only thing that really stirs my passion is journeying into our inner world, trying to find out why we do what we do.
Somewhat like being a Analytical, Illusion Busting, Spiritual Psychologist/Behaviourist/Inner Journey Guide person. (if that makes any sense)
I read people in the same way that most people read the News, finding the potential, the contradictions, the addictions, the illusions and the unfounded opinions.
At the moment I am writing an ebook on the subject, trying to get to the core of the human experience without all the opinions and belief systems. (Using myself as a test subject) So if I ramble and sound incoherent, please bear with me.

Peace and Truth to you all.

Dan